Tuesday, May 11, 2010

Future of the quad into

This is the first post of this blog and I just wanted to express my opinion on what is happening with the quadruple jump in figure skating. It was a sign of technical progress in the sport like the triple axel or any of the triple jumps. It does not seem to have a future. Why doesn't it have a futre in my view? It is because winners are not doing them. First off they are very hard to do. That is common sense but people were learning them and training for them because they thought they were necessary to win. But now with the Olympic champion and last three world champions all being quadless why bother with that jump now? COP has largely killed the jump. I think COP has killed the jump because under COP you get bonuses for jumps done after the haflway point and the fact that spins and steps have point values. You want to get the highest possible spin and step levels and what better way to do that than stop doing quads in your programs. They do take up a lot of energy and lots of people who do them have slower spins and less complex step sequences.

Look at what happened at the Olympics with Lysacek and Plushenko. Because of all of Lysaceks jumps after the halfway point he was nearly able to tie Plushenko on jumps. Plushenkos quad triple meant nothing when put up against all of Lysaceks jumps after the halfway point. They all increased in value a half point basically. Even if Plushenko's first triple axel had not been tilted in the air which caused negative GOE he still would have only beaten Lysacek by one point. COP has lead to people wiith the ability to do quad triples just barely edging out people who don't do any quads at all! Which makes it totally pointless to do if it also means slower steps and spins and to have lots of people accuse you of being an artless jumper which means lower PCS. Under COP doing a quad is the stupidest thing a skater can do if they have all the triple jumps. I feel I have to say that because of Lambiel who didn't do triple axels so really had to do quads to stay ccompetitive.

As skating goes toward the 2010/2011 season I can only see less people doing quads because of recent proposed changes in the scoring system. Just because the value of the quad looks like it is going to be increased doesn't mean it is actually worth doing. Bonuses after the halfway point plus bonuses for combos mean that any jump combo after the haflway point will be worth 2.2% more than if it was done before the halfway point.

1 comment:

  1. "Which makes it totally pointless to do if it also means slower steps and spins and to have lots of people accuse you of being an artless jumper which means lower PCS."

    No, the artless jumper story appeared before Vancouver in order to prepare Lysacek's victory over Plushenko. Those who called Plushenko artless jumper are the same who were praising his artistry in Turin or before. That's cheap propaganda and it has nothing to do with quads.

    "Under COP doing a quad is the stupidest thing a skater can do if they have all the triple jumps."

    Actually I can give you examples of skaters who have big problems with triples. I predict that very soon they will jump only doubles and win!

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