Whoa Kevin Reynolds. Good for him with his short program with a quad salchow and quad toe. Then his free skate with another quad sal and quad toe.
Patrick Chan who liked to fight with Joubert and Plushenko about quads being unnecessary joined the "quad club" when he did one in his free skate at Skate Canada. Oda the silver medalist also did a quad after not doing one all last season in a possible attempt to skate cleanly to make him look better for the Olympics.
I want to get right to the numbers themselves!
Short Program
Kevin Reynolds
4S+3T BV 14.60 GOE was plus .71 total was 15.31
4T BV 10.30 GOE + .71 again! total 11.01- was worth more than that!!
Patrick Chan
Ratified attempt 4T with fall -3.00 GOE total value 7.30. I don't have any problems with four revolutions in the air being worth 7.30 points. That is a skill that many can't even do. Like the 2010 Olympic champion.
Artur Gachinski coached by Alexei Mishin did a quad but landed poorly so couldn't do a combo. So his 10.30 got reduced by 3.00 in GOE so down to 7.30. Unfortunate mistake.
FREE SKATE
Patrick Chan 4t worth 12.30 to judges. Just base value to me.
Nobunari Oda got base value. no GOE. one judge went -1 another went +1 10.30
Javier Fernandez did the best one no doubt! He deserved the GOE he got. 12.01 - should have gotten Chan's GOE
Kevin Reynolds- 4s + 3t then 4T
Artur Gachinski 4t worth 9.30 because of negative GOE
Rippon won bronze without trying any quads-quads not part of his strategy which is backloading triples "quadless backloading" I call it.
No doubt the rule changes after 2010 caused this quad comeback. Buttle and Lysacek with their world championships and Lysacek's gold medal without a quad was severe jump regression that would no doubt damage the sport of figure skating as ultraconservatism is not good for sports!
Sunday, October 31, 2010
Sunday, October 24, 2010
Takahashi wins NHK trophy
In winning the NHK trophy Takahashi performed his first quad in a ISU competition since 2008! His quad toe loop was worth 10.30 and with positive GOE was worth 11.30. This was a major accomplishmen from Takahashi who fell or underroated all his quads last season. It does show if you want to do a quad you need to do quads.
AFP headline was Takahashi's quad jump wins figure skating opener
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gwmEneotkhY1JNXWNHCSZ0Zt5meg?docId=CNG.885922972c519655a4e5c49f59f7a47e.411
He won for many reasons not just the quad but that was really important.
All the Japanese skaters at the NHK trophy performned quads in their long programs at NHK. It is just the culture of Japanese skating that makes the quad an important element. Worldwide there is not such a culture. Obviously Lysacek won worlds and the Olympics without a quad which many felt was unnacceptable but perfectly fine in the U.S. which doesn't care so much for jump progression and never has.
Here are all the quads performed in the NHK trophy from the short and long programs.
Short Program -just one
Takahito Mura - Japan
4T+3T 14.40 BV with +GOE total was 15.54. He then singled his axel and had a step out from a lutz
Long Program
Daisuke Takahashi 4t. 10.30 to 11.30
Yuzuru Hanyu 10.30 total with GOE 11.59
Kevin Van Der Perrin 10.30 no goe total 10.30 because of the slow entry
Takahito Mura 10.30 with GOE 10.30
Protocols
Short http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpjpn2010/gpjpn10_Men_SP_Scores.pdf
Long http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpjpn2010/gpjpn10_Men_FS_Scores.pdf
AFP headline was Takahashi's quad jump wins figure skating opener
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gwmEneotkhY1JNXWNHCSZ0Zt5meg?docId=CNG.885922972c519655a4e5c49f59f7a47e.411
He won for many reasons not just the quad but that was really important.
All the Japanese skaters at the NHK trophy performned quads in their long programs at NHK. It is just the culture of Japanese skating that makes the quad an important element. Worldwide there is not such a culture. Obviously Lysacek won worlds and the Olympics without a quad which many felt was unnacceptable but perfectly fine in the U.S. which doesn't care so much for jump progression and never has.
Here are all the quads performed in the NHK trophy from the short and long programs.
Short Program -just one
Takahito Mura - Japan
4T+3T 14.40 BV with +GOE total was 15.54. He then singled his axel and had a step out from a lutz
Long Program
Daisuke Takahashi 4t. 10.30 to 11.30
Yuzuru Hanyu 10.30 total with GOE 11.59
Kevin Van Der Perrin 10.30 no goe total 10.30 because of the slow entry
Takahito Mura 10.30 with GOE 10.30
Protocols
Short http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpjpn2010/gpjpn10_Men_SP_Scores.pdf
Long http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpjpn2010/gpjpn10_Men_FS_Scores.pdf
Monday, October 18, 2010
Artur Gachinski wins again in Coupe Internationale de Nice
After winning Finlandia with a program that had a quad in the free skate Gachinski went to Nice and did a quad in his short program and a quad in the long program. His coach is Alexei Mishin and it is beginning to look like Gachinski will have a very good first year in Seniors.
In the short program it was a quad toe triple toe with a base value of 14.40 -because of a three turn in between the quad and triple he got negative goe totaling 1.50 points. The total was 12.90. He placed first with 77.91 points.
Konstantin Menshov did a quad toe double toe combo 11.70 BV plus .75 GOE for a total 12.45. He placed second with 73.23 points in the short.
Free Skate
Gachinski 4T - BV 10.30 +1.25 GOE total 11.55.
Menshov did a quad toe double toe combo and a solo quad.
4t+2t BV 11.70 Final Value 13.70 GOE 2.00
4t 10.30 -1.00 final value 9.30
He finished in second place with his second silver of the season. In previous seasons Menshov would do badly in short programs and have to recover in the long but this season he is having his best short programs ever and after Nebelhorn and now Nice with solid short programs he has won two medals. Whatever changed in his training has basically worked!
Alban Preaubert opened with a 3t-assume quad attempt.
Javier Fernandez fell after doing a fully rotated quad-worth 7.30
Liebers tried -did a 3T as opening jump
Chafik Besseghier 4t+2t bv 11.70 final value with GOE 12.70. His jumps are very impressive.
http://www.nice-baie-des-anges.fr/images/stories/docs-coupe/resultats2010/html/index.htm
In the short program it was a quad toe triple toe with a base value of 14.40 -because of a three turn in between the quad and triple he got negative goe totaling 1.50 points. The total was 12.90. He placed first with 77.91 points.
Konstantin Menshov did a quad toe double toe combo 11.70 BV plus .75 GOE for a total 12.45. He placed second with 73.23 points in the short.
Free Skate
Gachinski 4T - BV 10.30 +1.25 GOE total 11.55.
Menshov did a quad toe double toe combo and a solo quad.
4t+2t BV 11.70 Final Value 13.70 GOE 2.00
4t 10.30 -1.00 final value 9.30
He finished in second place with his second silver of the season. In previous seasons Menshov would do badly in short programs and have to recover in the long but this season he is having his best short programs ever and after Nebelhorn and now Nice with solid short programs he has won two medals. Whatever changed in his training has basically worked!
Alban Preaubert opened with a 3t-assume quad attempt.
Javier Fernandez fell after doing a fully rotated quad-worth 7.30
Liebers tried -did a 3T as opening jump
Chafik Besseghier 4t+2t bv 11.70 final value with GOE 12.70. His jumps are very impressive.
http://www.nice-baie-des-anges.fr/images/stories/docs-coupe/resultats2010/html/index.htm
Keegan Messing Junior Grand Prix Czech republic
Messing attempted a quad toe loop at his final junior grand prix event of the season. He fell and it was underrotated but that was an improvement from his downgraded fall at his first JGP event. I think that at the JGP Final which he qualified for he may land it. He will have November and December to train and I think because he is getting closer he may land it there.
First attempt at the Junior Grand Prix of Romanian in Brasov:
4T<< BV 4.10 GOE -2.08 Score 2.00 (factor in -1.00 deduction for falling and it was 1.00)
Second attempt at the JGP Ostrava Czech Rep
4T< BV 7.20 GOE -3.00 Score 4.20 (factor in -1.00 ded for falling and it was 3.20
He finished off the podium in Ostrava but won Romania
This is the path to learning any jump. Doing it in competitions over and over.
http://www.isuresults.com/results/jgpcze2010/
First attempt at the Junior Grand Prix of Romanian in Brasov:
4T<< BV 4.10 GOE -2.08 Score 2.00 (factor in -1.00 deduction for falling and it was 1.00)
Second attempt at the JGP Ostrava Czech Rep
4T< BV 7.20 GOE -3.00 Score 4.20 (factor in -1.00 ded for falling and it was 3.20
He finished off the podium in Ostrava but won Romania
This is the path to learning any jump. Doing it in competitions over and over.
http://www.isuresults.com/results/jgpcze2010/
Sunday, October 10, 2010
Finlandia Trophhy
Artur Gachinski of Russia - Gold Medal winner succeeded in doing a quad toe loop. Gachinski is a student of Alexei Mishin.
http://www.figureskatingresults.fi/results/1011/FT2010/FT2010_Men_FS_Scores.pdf
4T Base value 10.30 GOE .80 total value 11.10. Out of seven judges 5 gave him +1 GOE.
Nebelhorn Silver medalist Konstantin Menshov of Russia was also at Finlandia and he planned to a quad in the short but did a triple. In the LP he did a quad triple. 14.40 base value with GOE a negative 2 - final value 12.40. He finished in 7th place because of a weak short and the landings of other jumps in the LP were weak.
http://www.figureskatingresults.fi/results/1011/FT2010/FT2010_Men_FS_Scores.pdf
4T Base value 10.30 GOE .80 total value 11.10. Out of seven judges 5 gave him +1 GOE.
Nebelhorn Silver medalist Konstantin Menshov of Russia was also at Finlandia and he planned to a quad in the short but did a triple. In the LP he did a quad triple. 14.40 base value with GOE a negative 2 - final value 12.40. He finished in 7th place because of a weak short and the landings of other jumps in the LP were weak.
Japan Open ratified quads and official quad attempts
It was only the Japan open so I am not sure what to make of it but it was scored like an ISU compeition so I might as well include it here. I am sure people will refer to it during the upcoming season.
Quadruple toe loop Base value 10.30. Add to that his positive GOE of 2.14 (so generous!!! - it is the Japan Open after all) and you get 12.44.
After that he was said he was so excited he would pop his planned triple axel to a single axel and "lost" the "men's competition" to Adam Rippon. Rippon was totally flawless with his 8 triple program.
Michal Brezine. Quad Salchow 10.50. Negative GOE 1.57. Final value 8.93
Takahiko Kozuka - quad toe loop, base value 10.30 with fall so negative GOE a 3 and final value 7.30.
http://www.skatingjapan.jp/InterNational/2010-2011/jo/data0105.pdf
Quadruple toe loop Base value 10.30. Add to that his positive GOE of 2.14 (so generous!!! - it is the Japan Open after all) and you get 12.44.
After that he was said he was so excited he would pop his planned triple axel to a single axel and "lost" the "men's competition" to Adam Rippon. Rippon was totally flawless with his 8 triple program.
Michal Brezine. Quad Salchow 10.50. Negative GOE 1.57. Final value 8.93
Takahiko Kozuka - quad toe loop, base value 10.30 with fall so negative GOE a 3 and final value 7.30.
http://www.skatingjapan.jp/InterNational/2010-2011/jo/data0105.pdf
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