Not a major competition but quads were done. Nobunari Oda won and he didn't go all out with jumps so no quads from him! Silver was Sergei Voronov and he is still injured so no quads. Bronze went to Daisuke Murakami who did try quads. He tried a quad salchow.
Short Program quads
4th place Jinlin Guan 4t underrotated fell 4.20 points from a BV of 7.20
12th place Chafik Besseghier 4t+3t BV 14.40 he got 15.20 from good GOE. He then doubled a triple axel and triple lutz. Oops.
Long program quads
3rd place Jinlin Guan 4t BV 10.30 he got 8.10 because of negative GOE
5th place Daisuke Murakami 4S BV 10.50 he fell so negative 3 GOE across the board for a score of 7.50. He also got a 1 point deduction for falling. So 6.50.
http://www.isuresults.com/results/wu2011/UW11_Men_SP_Scores.pdf
http://www.isuresults.com/results/wu2011/UW11_Men_FS_Scores.pdf
Wednesday, February 2, 2011
Saturday, January 29, 2011
Euro Mens winner quadless!!!
Last year all medalists did quads and tried quad combos. This year the winner didn't attempt a single non combo quad. This in the year of the quad return. Obviously Joubert made a mistake in the short program falling on a triple Lutz and Verner falling on a triple axel. But the long is supposed to matter more and they did quads so this whole event has a pretty shocking ending!
2010-Plushenko did 2 quads
2009-Joubert did quads
2008-Verner did a quad
2007-Joubert did a quad
2006-Plushenko did quads
2005-Plushenko did quads
This wasn't a bad competition for quads. Lots of great quads were done. Joubert, Verner, Gachinski, Menshov, Van Der Perren. So many great quads!!
No quads in prelims
Short Program quads
placement means after SP
3rd Place Artur Gachinski- 4t+3t bv 14.40 worth 15.69 points
4th place Kevin Van Der Perren 4t+3t worth 15.69 points
7th place Brian Joubert 4t+2t BV 11.70 he got 10.41
15th place Adrian Schultheiss 4t<+combo BV 7.20 he got 4.20 He underrotated and fell
Long program quads
Really good ones here. Super good ones
Place means place in free skate
1st place Brian Joubert - 4t BV 10.30 he got 10.59
2nd Place Tomas Verner - 4t he got 11.30 - it was a really good quad so deserved GOE!
4th place Konstantin Menshov he did two quads. 4t+2t BV 117.0 he got 12.84 then he did a 4t and got 11.16.
5th place Kevin Van Der Perren - 4t he got 11.59
6th place Artur Gachinski - 4t he got 11.01
7th place Javier Fernandez 4t he got 11.59
12th place Adrian Schultheiss- 4t < underrotated BV 7.20 with negative GOE he got 6.20
2010-Plushenko did 2 quads
2009-Joubert did quads
2008-Verner did a quad
2007-Joubert did a quad
2006-Plushenko did quads
2005-Plushenko did quads
This wasn't a bad competition for quads. Lots of great quads were done. Joubert, Verner, Gachinski, Menshov, Van Der Perren. So many great quads!!
No quads in prelims
Short Program quads
placement means after SP
3rd Place Artur Gachinski- 4t+3t bv 14.40 worth 15.69 points
4th place Kevin Van Der Perren 4t+3t worth 15.69 points
7th place Brian Joubert 4t+2t BV 11.70 he got 10.41
15th place Adrian Schultheiss 4t<+combo BV 7.20 he got 4.20 He underrotated and fell
Long program quads
Really good ones here. Super good ones
Place means place in free skate
1st place Brian Joubert - 4t BV 10.30 he got 10.59
2nd Place Tomas Verner - 4t he got 11.30 - it was a really good quad so deserved GOE!
4th place Konstantin Menshov he did two quads. 4t+2t BV 117.0 he got 12.84 then he did a 4t and got 11.16.
5th place Kevin Van Der Perren - 4t he got 11.59
6th place Artur Gachinski - 4t he got 11.01
7th place Javier Fernandez 4t he got 11.59
12th place Adrian Schultheiss- 4t < underrotated BV 7.20 with negative GOE he got 6.20
Sunday, December 12, 2010
Grand Prix Final China - Mens and Pairs
Patrick Chan won with a short program that had an underrotated quad toe loop but a free skate that had a well done quad toe loop.
The short program had a quad toe triple toe combo by Nobunari Oda that may have been one of the best ever done! Over two extra points on GOE which is great for that level of jump.
Sui/Han of China tried to do throw quad salchow in their free skate but she fell after rotating it. They would win Bronze.
Mens Short Program
1- Nobunari Oda - 4T+3T Base value 14.40 - Oda's score 16.69. Very very impressive!
2-Patrick Chan - 4T< BV 7.20 final score 6.06
Free Skate
1. Patrick Chan - 4T BV 10.30. Final score 11.59
2. Takahiko Kozuka 4T< underrotated so BV 7.20- his sccore 5.63
3. Nobunari Oda 4T< with fall so BV 7.20 - score with fall - all -3 in GOE and 1 deduction off final score 4.20 (so really 3.20)
6. Daisuke Takahashi tried a quad flip. Problems with the quad toe. Flip attempt was underrotated so BV was 5.30 his score was 3.50.
1. Chan
2. Oda
3. Kozuka
Pairs
In Free skate Sui Han throw quad salchow 4Sth BV 8.00 their score with fall 5.71 plus the -1 deduction so really 4.71. They would win bronze.
1.Savchenko Szolkowy
2 Pang /Tong
3.Sui Han
Mens Protocol sheets
SP
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpf1011/gpf1011_Men_SP_Scores.pdf
FS
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpf1011/gpf1011_Men_FS_Scores.pdf
Pairs Free Skate Protocol
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpf1011/gpf1011_Pairs_FS_Scores.pdf
The short program had a quad toe triple toe combo by Nobunari Oda that may have been one of the best ever done! Over two extra points on GOE which is great for that level of jump.
Sui/Han of China tried to do throw quad salchow in their free skate but she fell after rotating it. They would win Bronze.
Mens Short Program
1- Nobunari Oda - 4T+3T Base value 14.40 - Oda's score 16.69. Very very impressive!
2-Patrick Chan - 4T< BV 7.20 final score 6.06
Free Skate
1. Patrick Chan - 4T BV 10.30. Final score 11.59
2. Takahiko Kozuka 4T< underrotated so BV 7.20- his sccore 5.63
3. Nobunari Oda 4T< with fall so BV 7.20 - score with fall - all -3 in GOE and 1 deduction off final score 4.20 (so really 3.20)
6. Daisuke Takahashi tried a quad flip. Problems with the quad toe. Flip attempt was underrotated so BV was 5.30 his score was 3.50.
1. Chan
2. Oda
3. Kozuka
Pairs
In Free skate Sui Han throw quad salchow 4Sth BV 8.00 their score with fall 5.71 plus the -1 deduction so really 4.71. They would win bronze.
1.Savchenko Szolkowy
2 Pang /Tong
3.Sui Han
Mens Protocol sheets
SP
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpf1011/gpf1011_Men_SP_Scores.pdf
FS
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpf1011/gpf1011_Men_FS_Scores.pdf
Pairs Free Skate Protocol
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpf1011/gpf1011_Pairs_FS_Scores.pdf
Saturday, November 27, 2010
Trophee Eric Bompard - Men's Winner did a quad
A quad from a GP winner returned at Trophee Eric Bompard. Takahiko Kozuka did a quad but there was a two foot landing so he got negative GOE on it-getting less than the base value.
Short Program Quads
3rd place Brandon Mroz. Quad toe loop triple toe loop combo worth 14.40 Mroz because of negatie GOE got 13.40.
4th Place making his senior GP debut was Chafik Besseghier did a perfect text book quad triple and his was worth 15.11!
5th place was Brian Joubert who underrotated his quad attempt and then added a single toe loop. He got all -3 from judges in GOE and the point value ended up being 4.60. He would withdraw from the free skate and this was the second time he underotated a quad.
7th place - Kevin Reynolds opened with a flawed quad salchow triple toe loop combo that got him 10.36 points which was under the base value of 11.50. He attempted a quad toe loop but underrotated it and fell so that was worth 4.20 points with the fall really 3.20.
Free Skate
1st place Takahiko Kozuka got 9.01 points for his slightly two footed quad toe loop attempt.
3rd place Brandon Mroz 10.16 for his quad toe loop. Better than Kozuka's as they are worth 10.30.
4th place Kevin reynolds. Quad Salchow BV 10.50 Reynolds got 11.o7 with plus GOE. His quad toe loop was again underrotated and he fell so 4.20 again.
7th place Chafik Besseghier tried a quad triple I think but singled the quad so that single toe loop was worth. .24 points. Ouch!
8th place Peter Liebers opened with a triple toe loop which I thought was supposed to be a quad but maybe it's not. This would be the 3rd or 4th time he tripled a quad attempt and I don't think that's likely. I think his plan is to open with a easy triple toe and get good GOE on it. It was worth 5.10 points.
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpfra2010/gpfra10_Men_FS_Scores.pdf
Medal winners
1. Kozuka
2. Amodio
3. Mroz
Short Program Quads
3rd place Brandon Mroz. Quad toe loop triple toe loop combo worth 14.40 Mroz because of negatie GOE got 13.40.
4th Place making his senior GP debut was Chafik Besseghier did a perfect text book quad triple and his was worth 15.11!
5th place was Brian Joubert who underrotated his quad attempt and then added a single toe loop. He got all -3 from judges in GOE and the point value ended up being 4.60. He would withdraw from the free skate and this was the second time he underotated a quad.
7th place - Kevin Reynolds opened with a flawed quad salchow triple toe loop combo that got him 10.36 points which was under the base value of 11.50. He attempted a quad toe loop but underrotated it and fell so that was worth 4.20 points with the fall really 3.20.
Free Skate
1st place Takahiko Kozuka got 9.01 points for his slightly two footed quad toe loop attempt.
3rd place Brandon Mroz 10.16 for his quad toe loop. Better than Kozuka's as they are worth 10.30.
4th place Kevin reynolds. Quad Salchow BV 10.50 Reynolds got 11.o7 with plus GOE. His quad toe loop was again underrotated and he fell so 4.20 again.
7th place Chafik Besseghier tried a quad triple I think but singled the quad so that single toe loop was worth. .24 points. Ouch!
8th place Peter Liebers opened with a triple toe loop which I thought was supposed to be a quad but maybe it's not. This would be the 3rd or 4th time he tripled a quad attempt and I don't think that's likely. I think his plan is to open with a easy triple toe and get good GOE on it. It was worth 5.10 points.
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpfra2010/gpfra10_Men_FS_Scores.pdf
Medal winners
1. Kozuka
2. Amodio
3. Mroz
Saturday, November 20, 2010
Cup Of Russia
Lots of great quads in the short program but by the free skate there was not one good one! Not from one person!
Short Programs
In the Mens skate Patrick Chan did a great quad toe loop - triple toe loop which got big GOE points. 14.40 plus 1.86 for a total of 16.26. Great accomplishment for him! It is like he was doing quad triples his whole career. Then he fell on a triple axel. Hope he puts them together soon.
Artur Gachinski did a quad toe loop + double toe loop. 11.70 + .43 = 12.13
Konstantin Menshov also did a quad-double and he scored 12.41 so better than Gachinski but he then doubled a triple loop.
Free Skate
Free Skate was a disaster for people who tried quads! They all failed
Chan underrotated and fell getting him 4.20 points but with the fall was really like 3.20
Abbott underrotated and fell getting the same score as Chan.
Preubert underrotated and fell!
Hanyu tripled it
Gachinski doubled it.
Machida underrotated but did not fall so got 5.06
Javier Fernandez did it but then fell. Some judges didn't give him -3 in GOE just -2 because he did land it for a second so 7.73 points
Konstantin Menshov had two planned but tripled one and doubled another.
It was just terrible. And that doesn't even factor in winner Tomas Verner who did them most of his career but doesn't do them anymore. But unlike Skate America a medal winner did do one at least so congrats to Patrick Chan who is now the standard bearer for quads! Didn't that would ever be written by anyone! LOL!
Short Programs
In the Mens skate Patrick Chan did a great quad toe loop - triple toe loop which got big GOE points. 14.40 plus 1.86 for a total of 16.26. Great accomplishment for him! It is like he was doing quad triples his whole career. Then he fell on a triple axel. Hope he puts them together soon.
Artur Gachinski did a quad toe loop + double toe loop. 11.70 + .43 = 12.13
Konstantin Menshov also did a quad-double and he scored 12.41 so better than Gachinski but he then doubled a triple loop.
Free Skate
Free Skate was a disaster for people who tried quads! They all failed
Chan underrotated and fell getting him 4.20 points but with the fall was really like 3.20
Abbott underrotated and fell getting the same score as Chan.
Preubert underrotated and fell!
Hanyu tripled it
Gachinski doubled it.
Machida underrotated but did not fall so got 5.06
Javier Fernandez did it but then fell. Some judges didn't give him -3 in GOE just -2 because he did land it for a second so 7.73 points
Konstantin Menshov had two planned but tripled one and doubled another.
It was just terrible. And that doesn't even factor in winner Tomas Verner who did them most of his career but doesn't do them anymore. But unlike Skate America a medal winner did do one at least so congrats to Patrick Chan who is now the standard bearer for quads! Didn't that would ever be written by anyone! LOL!
Sunday, November 14, 2010
Skate America- Congrats Sui/Han!
The pairs team from China did a flawed quad throw salchow but showed they had the stamina and ability to do one consistently from competition to competition. Wish the men had that. Of course the quad trend would end at Skate America-home of the quadless Olympic Champ.
No quads in the short from any man.
2 quads in the long by Kevin Van Der Perren and Adrian Schultheiss.
Not doing or completing planned quads were Oda and Takahashi or Stephen Carriere.
Pairs - with medal winners who did a quad
4STh-Quad throw salchow BV 8.00 - 1.57 GOE total 6.43
Worst comp of the season for men
No quads in the short from any man.
2 quads in the long by Kevin Van Der Perren and Adrian Schultheiss.
Not doing or completing planned quads were Oda and Takahashi or Stephen Carriere.
Pairs - with medal winners who did a quad
4STh-Quad throw salchow BV 8.00 - 1.57 GOE total 6.43
Men
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpusa2010/gpusa10_Men_FS_Scores.pdf
Takahashi bailed did a triple which was overrotated
Oda-7.30 with fall
Van Der Perren Quad toe loop 10.30 + .14=10.44
Carriere Downgraded to triple point value so 2.00 was recieved
Schultheiss 9th place best quad worth 11.30 pointsWorst comp of the season for men
Saturday, November 6, 2010
Cup Of China
Third Grand Prix event and third mens winner who did a quad. Also in pairs Sui/Han did a quad throw salchow. Sui messed up on the landing a little but that quad throw was well done and no doubt about her doing four revolutions!
Takhito Kozuka did one in his free skate that with negative GOE was worth 9.30 points. Even with the negative GOE it might have been one of his best quads ever. Brandon Mroz was the surprise silver medalist mostly due to his quad and other jumps. Bronze went to now quadless Tomas Verner who is not going to be doing the jump to gain consistency. The root of his problems last season was apparently the quad was using too much of his energy and focus? Only thing I can think of.
Short program
2-Brian Joubert 4t+3t
4-Brandon Mroz 4t+3t
5-Sergei Voronov 4t+1t
8-Jinlin Guan 4t
Long Program
1-Takahito Kazuka
2-Brandon Mroz
5-Brian Joubert 4t< - He slightly underrotated his one official quad. Think he also attempted a quad salchow but tripled it.
6-Tatsuki Machida -4T fell -7.30
7-Jinlin Guan-4T fell -7.30
Voronov had to withdraw because he hurt himself on his opening quad and so did not finish his free skate. Best showing still goes to Artur Gachinski.
Sui/Han quad throw salchow was worth 6.71 though the bv is 8 points. They came in second nearly beating Pang/Tong who were off. Well Pang was off with her jumps.
Takhito Kozuka did one in his free skate that with negative GOE was worth 9.30 points. Even with the negative GOE it might have been one of his best quads ever. Brandon Mroz was the surprise silver medalist mostly due to his quad and other jumps. Bronze went to now quadless Tomas Verner who is not going to be doing the jump to gain consistency. The root of his problems last season was apparently the quad was using too much of his energy and focus? Only thing I can think of.
Short program
2-Brian Joubert 4t+3t
4-Brandon Mroz 4t+3t
5-Sergei Voronov 4t+1t
8-Jinlin Guan 4t
Long Program
1-Takahito Kazuka
2-Brandon Mroz
5-Brian Joubert 4t< - He slightly underrotated his one official quad. Think he also attempted a quad salchow but tripled it.
6-Tatsuki Machida -4T fell -7.30
7-Jinlin Guan-4T fell -7.30
Voronov had to withdraw because he hurt himself on his opening quad and so did not finish his free skate. Best showing still goes to Artur Gachinski.
Sui/Han quad throw salchow was worth 6.71 though the bv is 8 points. They came in second nearly beating Pang/Tong who were off. Well Pang was off with her jumps.
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